meaningful and insightful conversations I have are with myself(those here on the forum also included) the problem I run into, the next day I may contradict what I said the day before. Probably a survival instinct and my long term traders have come to realize the value of those contradictory conversations. It usually takes about 3 years to grasp the reality of the markets-----if they pay attention. So many of the guys I talk to, only want to hear what they want to hear and want nothing to do with truth or reality possibilities. Sometimes the truth hurts but the reality possibilities can hurt worse, if you haven't had that conversation when the Knock Out punch happens